Sandara Park: Re: Orthodogs ACL and CCL? Collin

My 2.5 year old Vizsla tore up her knee some years back. The plan was to do a TPLO but I asked the Dr to contact me once he was inside the knee to discuss best procedure. He was open to that. Once he was in the joint and took the time to look around he discovered it was the Caudal Cruciate, not the Cranial. If he had done the TPLO as planned my dog would have been toast since the TPLO depends on an intact Caudal ligament and my dog's was gone! HE thanked me profusely for pushing him to look deeply before cutting the bone.

Long story short she had a traditional fish line repair, a thorough rehab, and she hunted and field trialed the rest of her life with no problem with either knee. After a year you'd never know she had a surgery.

Joe

On Jun 15, 2020, at 1:14 PM, Jane Tutton jtutton_99@yahoo.com [orthodogs] <orthodogs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

One of my friends had TPLO in one surgery with poor results and TTA in the other leg with mediocre results. I had traditional fishing line on my dog and she ran agility for 9 years. I really think that it depends on the dog and the owner's willingness to do all the rehab necessary for whichever surgery you choose. My girl was a very active labrador. She never had the other knee go and never had problems with the surgical knee. She didn't have any genetic complications, though. I might be of a different opinion if it was thought that the genetic component cause the rupture. Her recovery was pretty quick since she was only 9 months old at the time of injury. I also did regular chiropracty can massage as well as exercise to keep her fit and I kept her on the light side.

I would still probably opt for something that didn't cut the bone first, then go to the more invasive surgeries if needed..

I also insure my dogs. That allowed me to treat my dog's cancer last year and this year. Whatever surgery you choose, I would always insure my pet as early as possible.

Jane in FL mailto:jtutton_99@yahoo.com

On Monday, June 15, 2020, 12:01:40 PM EDT, Nick drzaius7@yahoo.com [orthodogs] <orthodogs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I would agree. I have had experience with TTA and TPLO
Surgeons have their own preference but they are very similar. Personally TTA has been less expensive with quicker recovery and equally good results. My dogs were large Italian mastiffs and the surgery took with no problems each time.

On Jun 15, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Tanya Yahoo tanya22333@yahoo.com [orthodogs] <orthodogs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Wanted to chime in.
There is another procedure - the TTA. The recovery is a little faster then the TPLO and they do bear more weight on it faster. The TTA has a lower complication rate and less painful convalescence. I also like that the TTA implant is made out of titanium My mother's dog was a big Rottweiler and we opted for the TTA. She never blew the other knee and is doing great 5 years later.
Fish line should be reserved for smaller dogs or medium non active dogs. Like maybe a geriatric medium bread who really isn't doing much. I have seen too many fishline procedures blow on dogs that really were not good candidates to begin with. So two surgeries, two bills and two recoveries. I firmly believe in going straight to the TTA or TPLO.
I work in veterinary medicine in management , however we do not do any of the three procedures. We send all out to the orthopedic surgeons.

Tanya

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On Jun 15, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Elice Sturdivant elicesturdivant@yahoo.com [orthodogs] <orthodogs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yes he was. His entire litter was seized from the owners and most of them died from parvo. He was so pitiful when he got here. Now he is a big galoot.

On Friday, June 12, 2020, 05:53:47 PM EDT, Melissa Shelly melissa.shelly@gmail.com [orthodogs] <orthodogs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I think the TPLOs are mote successful than the fishing line repair.. My dog had TPLOs on both legs and has done pretty well. He also had elbow surgery at a very young age for fragmented coronoid process. All these surgeries, in my opinion, were a result of pediatric neutering which appears to predispose animals to orthopedic injuries. Was your dog a rescue???

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On Jun 12, 2020, at 5:16 PM, 'Eileen L.' dogstareml@gmail.com [orthodogs] <orthodogs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yes, my cattle dog did it when she was 6 years old.. First the "fishline", then then TPLO, 6 months later. The TPLO was successful; she was running again like her old self, and you never knew she'd had two surgeries on that knee. When she tore the opposite leg 6 months after that, we went right for the TPLO...

Eileen in Wisconsin

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 3:12 PM Elice Sturdivant elicesturdivant@yahoo...com [orthodogs] <orthodogs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hello,

Looking for some group input here, thanks in advance. Collin is a 7..5 84lb pit. At 6 months old, he was diagnosed with hip displasia and the vet recommended that we wait on any corrective surgery until he finished growing. THEN he tore the ACL in that knee and we decided it would not be prudent to wait. I can't remember the order that we had the surgeries, but ultimately we had a femoral head ostectomy and then the ACL repair (I think the lateral suture???)

Fast forward to December 2019- He tore the CCL in the same knee... He goes in for TPLO surgery in 2 weeks. I can't remember ever hearing about dog blowing out both tendons in the same leg. Does anyone have any experience with this? I would love to hear your input.

Thanks!
Elice Sturdivant and Collin